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Nov 8, 2018 11:16 PM
#201
AbuHumaid said: I think I make it obvious enough when I'm fluffing though lol and they should be taken as nai unless I just fluff the whole game but I'm still posting substance here and they're real thoughts.RE said: They're not really scum reads tbh, as I'm uncertain about them, like for Bajar, how do I expect me to take his #152 seriously, with the caps and all the question marks? Then when I tell him to get serious he votes me without an explanation, like.... What? Are you joking or not?AbuHumaid said: RE said: elaborate tbh.AbuHumaid said: I find you scummy in addition to Astros.RE said: Scummy weird, I can't tell if they're being serious or not with their claims and accusations.AbuHumaid said: Scummy weird or just weird?RE said: Tainted and Bajar are acting weird, other than that I don't have much.AbuHumaid said: Do you have reads on anyone so far though?Game is kinda boring, where's everyone? Any weirder than how they usually play? As for Tainted he really should stop being a clown, because that "joking" is a good way to hide behind as a scum in early game, the only reason I'm not going after him is because I've seen him do this in some games before, but that doesn't mean he should get a pass just like that tbh. |
Nov 8, 2018 11:18 PM
#202
RE said: lol I think RE is townAbuHumaid said: WHAT@RE also I knew you'd mention this, I'm not giving you a read yet because your scum game have gotten better and I got more wary, I won't be hasty in my judgement, you're gravely mistaken if you think I'll just suck up to you without observing your behavior patiently first. NO WAY NOOOO WAAAAY You think I'm obvious as scum regardless xD But if you are town and serious, well, thanks xD (I disagree wholeheartedly though) star looks fine too |
Nov 8, 2018 11:24 PM
#203
@Jormandur your name sounds familiar? Idk where |
Nov 8, 2018 11:55 PM
#204
Phraze said: RE said: AbuHumaid said: RE said: Wdym? Phraze mentioned what? Did anyone claim Witch?AbuHumaid said: If we do, they're not mentioned in the set up.Btw do we have TPR? If we don't then there might be 4 mafia. Phraze may have mentioned this already, but if we were to flavor game, "witch" is a TPR role. Phraze said: Flusher will take some time for me to digest @Jormandur witches can go either way depending on the context of the story posted that since Jormangur rvs'd me on implications of being witch. how would he know if the witch was bad or not? if witch was in play tho, then yeah they're likely tpr with the same explanation (but I didn't think that far when posting flavor question xD). It was a joke. |
Nov 9, 2018 12:03 AM
#205
It's a misspelling of Jormungandr, the snake that surrounds the world in Norse mythology. |
Nov 9, 2018 1:02 AM
#206
Nov 9, 2018 1:17 AM
#207
hmmm so i decided to wait a while before posting inorder for some content to get out, but all i get is 5 pages of nothing >_> Usually game explodes from rvs and people start sorting things out soon enough in this game is fluff/past games/and nothing that can move the game forward(thats just how i feel) As for who has given me scum vibes so far-This is just a feeling but abu seems off. My meta read on him is old but from what i recall his town game is quite good. HE is no nonsense and his points are valid. However, i feel nothing like that abu here. Thats just how i feel right now, maybe that will change once the game moves forward. As for others, time will tell. |
Nov 9, 2018 1:32 AM
#208
Wouldn't lynch: Bajar - Lots of TWTBAW, then ForgotToFlush - Solid analysis, especially in the 70s-80s. Karote - Okay. Might change. RE - Actively hunting. Tainted - Actively hunting. No Opinion: Kiiruma - No content. ironace - Very few posts, but decent. Riku - No content. starpendle - I don't get anything from them. Would lynch: AbuHumaid - Defensive, not hunting, appears fake. Astros - Awful posts when around, and not around much. Kit - Odd defense, hasn't posted much, very awkward posts. Phraze - Lost? Not trying? Trying to not try? Something is off. yurkin - Doesn't do much of anything, then posts 199. Scum Team Guess: Kit + yurkin + Astros + AbuHumaid |
Nov 9, 2018 1:45 AM
#210
Damn! I don't entirely disagree. In fact whatever vibe from yurkin I got from her first post faded. (Neutral with a bad vibe.) Who are you??? |
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Nov 9, 2018 1:55 AM
#211
Might go to sleep soon. vote: Astros This is fine - I can still see Abu being within his town range and I think if he continues posting his alignment will become clear. If not Astros, I'd go for Kit, but I'll give her some breathing room (lol). As for the reasoning, in Bob's Burgers, Phraze described Astros' scum game as searching for individual posts to shade (or something like that). His only read-related post falls directly into that. His analysis is usually more objective than that as well. |
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Nov 9, 2018 1:55 AM
#212
Our resident troll |
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Nov 9, 2018 2:02 AM
#213
ironace said: I thought I'm the only onehmmm so i decided to wait a while before posting inorder for some content to get out, but all i get is 5 pages of nothing >_> Usually game explodes from rvs and people start sorting things out soon enough in this game is fluff/past games/and nothing that can move the game forward(thats just how i feel) As for who has given me scum vibes so far-This is just a feeling but abu seems off. My meta read on him is old but from what i recall his town game is quite good. HE is no nonsense and his points are valid. However, i feel nothing like that abu here. Thats just how i feel right now, maybe that will change once the game moves forward. As for others, time will tell. Abu telling me not to joke around seems off for me Like I just didn't voice it out cause it's been awhile too since I've played with him |
Nov 9, 2018 2:04 AM
#214
Jormandur said: prob a user with that name thenIt's a misspelling of Jormungandr, the snake that surrounds the world in Norse mythology. |
Nov 9, 2018 2:08 AM
#215
Jormandur said: this is somewhat my list right nowWouldn't lynch: Bajar - Lots of TWTBAW, then ForgotToFlush - Solid analysis, especially in the 70s-80s. Karote - Okay. Might change. RE - Actively hunting. Tainted - Actively hunting. No Opinion: Kiiruma - No content. ironace - Very few posts, but decent. Riku - No content. starpendle - I don't get anything from them. Would lynch: AbuHumaid - Defensive, not hunting, appears fake. Astros - Awful posts when around, and not around much. Kit - Odd defense, hasn't posted much, very awkward posts. Phraze - Lost? Not trying? Trying to not try? Something is off. yurkin - Doesn't do much of anything, then posts 199. Scum Team Guess: Kit + yurkin + Astros + AbuHumaid Seems pretty easy to label people right now since theres not much post yet |
Nov 9, 2018 2:18 AM
#216
Excuse me, person with smiley girls collection !?!? I deny that label !!! Next time I will sue you. |
Nov 9, 2018 2:23 AM
#217
Jormandur said: Wouldn't lynch: Bajar - Lots of TWTBAW, then ForgotToFlush - Solid analysis, especially in the 70s-80s. Karote - Okay. Might change. RE - Actively hunting. Tainted - Actively hunting. No Opinion: Kiiruma - No content. ironace - Very few posts, but decent. Riku - No content. starpendle - I don't get anything from them. Would lynch: AbuHumaid - Defensive, not hunting, appears fake. Astros - Awful posts when around, and not around much. Kit - Odd defense, hasn't posted much, very awkward posts. Phraze - Lost? Not trying? Trying to not try? Something is off. yurkin - Doesn't do much of anything, then posts 199. Scum Team Guess: Kit + yurkin + Astros + AbuHumaid If #199 bothers you why didnt you said anything? That seemed like your catch up with the thread, and you were turning your attention to something useless. You know in answer to "what's weird about it" you'll get theory talk. |
Nov 9, 2018 2:31 AM
#218
Nov 9, 2018 2:42 AM
#219
@Jormandur curious what you found as solid analysis Also can't agree Abu seems fake. Hmm now that I look at this this read list seem to be jokish. |
Nov 9, 2018 4:37 AM
#220
Eeeeeek. Already got quite a few posts to catch up on! I'll make a catchup post in a bit, internet kept DC'ing last night after Uni :| |
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Nov 9, 2018 5:58 AM
#221
starpendle said: Their suspicion based on activity alone. They singled out those who made a single post without an RVS as suspect without much reasoning or explanation.Wait what did you consider nothing? His post seems reasonable as of right now, not really spam. He posted a lot all at once but it's null to me since I know it's a habit from MU. Kind of a weird return post after your entrance. #99 Starts with this post. Pointing out such behavior is weird with no basis. Activity is usually NAI. #107 Can't tell if they're serious, but three people sharing the same post style warrants a vote. I know it's early game, but still. #109 The post that solidifies the something out of nothing. I can attest that things other than being Mafia will keep you from the game. Like work for example. In my previous game Bob's Burgers I had to contend with work as well while playing. Ultimately it's NAI due to the fact a lot can account for absence or general lack of posts. Hell, I could be feeling ill or a relative just died. It's hard to know, and typically from my experience activity is the last thing town should be considering heavily, and after all better alternatives have been checked. It surprises me to a degree that anyone from that game would suspect me now due to the same play. However, despite not having definitive proof of my alignment I'll confidently say this is something out of nothing. You're free to believe otherwise or think I'm Mafia caught by a slip of some sort, but you will only get burned. Not spam? Perhaps you could argue their content is not purely spam, and I'd agree. However, their frequency is certainly spam tier. #77N: Could have been included in a single post. As well as #96a, #103h, and #115t. They openly admit they're spamming with their posts at #85 yet do nothing about it afterward. In a smaller game it would be more forgivable, but with this many players it will become a real pain soon enough. As I've come to known in past games with people who post like this. Replying to any and all posts when catching up, without taking the time to read the rest of the thread where their questions may have already been answered. Why is it weird? Elaborate. |
Nov 9, 2018 6:22 AM
#222
It's certainly vague and inconsistent. |
Nov 9, 2018 6:30 AM
#223
Page 1: Some RVS, some discussion of numbers. Only weird thing is some things Bajar said, but I'm not sure if that's due to being new here or whether being fairly scummy. Page 2: More discussion about potential setup. A bit of comparison between NAI, Town and Gambler's Fallacy. Page 3: Bajar continues to do nothing except be extremely weird. How was Karote being scummy? However there seems to be some small reads already and nothing seems particularly off yet. Page 4: FTF finally posts something that I find particularly interesting, about 1 posters and Jor reacts in a way which I find to be quite normal. Considering I haven't seen them before, is it possible they've planned this out? RE commented on Yurkin too but from what I've seen it seems pretty accurate. Page 5: RE super confused me for a few minutes. So it was an original scumread but now it's a townread? Yet you're not really questioning Jor. Also, Jor's reads are interesting but they don't see scum hiding in the non-posters? That's pretty interesting |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:06 AM
#224
grrr said: How dare you involve them in this.Excuse me, person with smiley girls collection !?!? I deny that label !!! Next time I will sue you. Astros said: I don't know why you linked this post? The only post where I discuss activity as cause for suspicion is when I say I would have expected Kit, starpendle, and maybe ironace to have posted more by now.#109 The post that solidifies the something out of nothing. I can attest that things other than being Mafia will keep you from the game. Like work for example. In my previous game Bob's Burgers I had to contend with work as well while playing. Ultimately it's NAI due to the fact a lot can account for absence or general lack of posts. Hell, I could be feeling ill or a relative just died. It's hard to know, and typically from my experience activity is the last thing town should be considering heavily, and after all better alternatives have been checked. It surprises me to a degree that anyone from that game would suspect me now due to the same play. However, despite not having definitive proof of my alignment I'll confidently say this is something out of nothing. You're free to believe otherwise or think I'm Mafia caught by a slip of some sort, but you will only get burned. You seem overly defensive. You should note that my vote on you has nothing to do with activity but the content of the first post you made. I made this clear when I voted you.Kiiruma said: I never scumread Jor?Page 5: RE super confused me for a few minutes. So it was an original scumread but now it's a townread? Yet you're not really questioning Jor. Also, Jor's reads are interesting but they don't see scum hiding in the non-posters? That's pretty interesting I agree though. |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:14 AM
#225
wifi cut ut at home so i'll update from campus later |
Nov 9, 2018 8:23 AM
#226
Kiiruma said: I'm not sure I understand the bolded.Page 4: FTF finally posts something that I find particularly interesting, about 1 posters and Jor reacts in a way which I find to be quite normal. Considering I haven't seen them before, is it possible they've planned this out? RE commented on Yurkin too but from what I've seen it seems pretty accurate. Are you saying the interaction between FTF/Jor could be w/w? What would not having seen them before have to do with anything? |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:28 AM
#227
Astros said: About this - I think it's fair commentary and he should explain why it's weird because I don't think it's uncommon for this to happen on MU either. However on MU (the site FTF plays on) it's not unusual to post in such frequency. I'd find catch up posts that reply consecutively more scummy.Perhaps you could argue their content is not purely spam, and I'd agree. However, their frequency is certainly spam tier. #77N: Could have been included in a single post. As well as #96a, #103h, and #115t. They openly admit they're spamming with their posts at #85 yet do nothing about it afterward. In a smaller game it would be more forgivable, but with this many players it will become a real pain soon enough. As I've come to known in past games with people who post like this. Replying to any and all posts when catching up, without taking the time to read the rest of the thread where their questions may have already been answered. |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:33 AM
#228
I mean as in you scumread Yurkin for their first post but now don't? Yet the way it was worded it was like you was partially agreeing with Jor's reads so I was wondering why you didn't object to their Yurkin read. RE said: I'm not sure I understand the bolded. Are you saying the interaction between FTF/Jor could be w/w? What would not having seen them before have to do with anything? I am indeed saying their interaction could be W/W. However not having seen them before means I don't know how far ahead they'd have planned or even if they'd have thought of doing this. It makes it really difficult to justify a read on them |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:36 AM
#229
Kiiruma said: It's the opposite! I called yurkin town for a one-word post (lol). However after recent posts from them the feeling faded. My bad vibe is likely paranoia at this time, but they are back at a neutral.I mean as in you scumread Yurkin for their first post but now don't? Yet the way it was worded it was like you was partially agreeing with Jor's reads so I was wondering why you didn't object to their Yurkin read. RE said: I'm not sure I understand the bolded. Are you saying the interaction between FTF/Jor could be w/w? What would not having seen them before have to do with anything? I am indeed saying their interaction could be W/W. However not having seen them before means I don't know how far ahead they'd have planned or even if they'd have thought of doing this. It makes it really difficult to justify a read on them |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:42 AM
#230
RE said: It's the opposite! I called yurkin town for a one-word post (lol). However after recent posts from them the feeling faded. My bad vibe is likely paranoia at this time, but they are back at a neutral. Now then, this is quite a problem. Your read changed over a page? Unless I am being totally foolish, you was saying that they're like Town!Yurkin due to style at the top of page 4. Yet now they've neut read? By neut read do you mean Null or as in 3PR? RE said: Why does that interaction in particular suggest W/W? It just feels like it's been planned out and the only way they could do that is if they're neighbours (Which they haven't claimed) or if they're both scum. I don't see town doing that sort of interaction |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:50 AM
#231
Kiiruma said: Considering I only read them off one word, I don't think the problem lies so much in the read changing but the fact I felt compelled to read them off one word in the first place!RE said: It's the opposite! I called yurkin town for a one-word post (lol). However after recent posts from them the feeling faded. My bad vibe is likely paranoia at this time, but they are back at a neutral. Now then, this is quite a problem. Your read changed over a page? Unless I am being totally foolish, you was saying that they're like Town!Yurkin due to style at the top of page 4. Yet now they've neut read? By neut read do you mean Null or as in 3PR? Yes, town!yurkin due to me visualizing her mindset in her reply to Abu. However in her newer posts, there was a lack of that edginess. I probably shouldn't expect it in every post of hers, but it was enough for me to think that my townread of her was premature. RE said: Why does that interaction in particular suggest W/W? It just feels like it's been planned out and the only way they could do that is if they're neighbours (Which they haven't claimed) or if they're both scum. I don't see town doing that sort of interaction Jormandur said: ForgotToFlush said: anyway reads not much to be learnt only thing that irks me is like the people who only posted once like not zero posters one posters what's up with that it's so weird What is weird about it? |
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Nov 9, 2018 8:53 AM
#232
Tainted said: we all know the witch ate muffin, but does the story make her evil yet?Tainted said: @Phraze did you just role flavor slip??Phraze said: Flusher will take some time for me to digest @Jormandur witches can go either way depending on the context of the story and nah, I don't like claiming to begin with - when pushed, I only soft or half-claim...or not at all. thought u knew that by now? hmm.. |
Nov 9, 2018 9:16 AM
#233
Jormandur said: Why is Karote so high? I'm not against with some in your lynch list, but I'm curious how you're finding content out of Karote's and compared to those and me in your no opinion list.Wouldn't lynch: Bajar - Lots of TWTBAW, then ForgotToFlush - Solid analysis, especially in the 70s-80s. Karote - Okay. Might change. RE - Actively hunting. Tainted - Actively hunting. No Opinion: Kiiruma - No content. ironace - Very few posts, but decent. Riku - No content. starpendle - I don't get anything from them. Would lynch: AbuHumaid - Defensive, not hunting, appears fake. Astros - Awful posts when around, and not around much. Kit - Odd defense, hasn't posted much, very awkward posts. Phraze - Lost? Not trying? Trying to not try? Something is off. yurkin - Doesn't do much of anything, then posts 199. Scum Team Guess: Kit + yurkin + Astros + AbuHumaid Astros said: I find it weird mainly because your first post was joke post to go along with mine, but then you show up afterward to being dead set to lynch Flush, not really saying much otherwise. I thought Flush's reads were fine since there was so little to go on to scumhunt at the time, though I feel like he should be the one replying to the rest.starpendle said: Their suspicion based on activity alone. They singled out those who made a single post without an RVS as suspect without much reasoning or explanation.Wait what did you consider nothing? His post seems reasonable as of right now, not really spam. He posted a lot all at once but it's null to me since I know it's a habit from MU. Kind of a weird return post after your entrance. #99 Starts with this post. Pointing out such behavior is weird with no basis. Activity is usually NAI. #107 Can't tell if they're serious, but three people sharing the same post style warrants a vote. I know it's early game, but still. #109 The post that solidifies the something out of nothing. I can attest that things other than being Mafia will keep you from the game. Like work for example. In my previous game Bob's Burgers I had to contend with work as well while playing. Ultimately it's NAI due to the fact a lot can account for absence or general lack of posts. Hell, I could be feeling ill or a relative just died. It's hard to know, and typically from my experience activity is the last thing town should be considering heavily, and after all better alternatives have been checked. It surprises me to a degree that anyone from that game would suspect me now due to the same play. However, despite not having definitive proof of my alignment I'll confidently say this is something out of nothing. You're free to believe otherwise or think I'm Mafia caught by a slip of some sort, but you will only get burned. Not spam? Perhaps you could argue their content is not purely spam, and I'd agree. However, their frequency is certainly spam tier. #77N: Could have been included in a single post. As well as #96a, #103h, and #115t. They openly admit they're spamming with their posts at #85 yet do nothing about it afterward. In a smaller game it would be more forgivable, but with this many players it will become a real pain soon enough. As I've come to known in past games with people who post like this. Replying to any and all posts when catching up, without taking the time to read the rest of the thread where their questions may have already been answered. Why is it weird? Elaborate. Also I don't really know you or most of the people here, so I have no idea what your previous play is. And what does RVS mean? Been seeing that term brought up. |
Nov 9, 2018 9:21 AM
#234
starpendle said: Random voting stage, people voting people for absurd or no reasons at all. For wagon analysis... Or something.And what does RVS mean? Been seeing that term brought up. (Also, I think he was asking FTF to explain why it was weird for people to drop in for a post or two and then disappear.) @Tainted I find starpendle's tone pure. Am I wrong? |
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Nov 9, 2018 9:28 AM
#235
RE said: It's where I got to wording something out of nothing. Okay, but my post wasn't directed at you specifically. You're not the only one suspecting activity.I don't know why you linked this post? The only post where I discuss activity as cause for suspicion is when I say I would have expected Kit, starpendle, and maybe ironace to have posted more by now. RE said: How am I defensive in excess? Are you comparing this to meta or personal opinion? I'll admit I'm being more aggressive, but that's as I think the current suspects are for poor reasons. You seem overly defensive. RE said: I'm aware. However it didn't seem that was your only reason with how long you waited to vote from your initial post of suspicion. To me it seems you were reassured by the mutual suspicion of FTF and Jormandur. Who primarily seem to suspect my activity at the moment. You should note that my vote on you has nothing to do with activity but the content of the first post you made. I made this clear when I voted you. RE said: Being from MU can easily be used as an excuse.I'm not saying it is, but the possibility is there. Personally, it's not a heavy indicator of alignment, but I just simply dislike how it muddles up the game thread more than necessary. Making back reading and getting a sense for current debates all the more challenging. It's detrimental overall.About this - I think it's fair commentary and he should explain why it's weird because I don't think it's uncommon for this to happen on MU either. However on MU (the site FTF plays on) it's not unusual to post in such frequency. I'd find catch up posts that reply consecutively more scummy. |
Nov 9, 2018 9:34 AM
#236
starpendle said: I never said I wanted to lynch Flush. I simply stated I disliked their posting habit and found their reasons for suspicion as poor. Largely as that was the only thing I felt relevant to add onto. I find it weird mainly because your first post was joke post to go along with mine, but then you show up afterward to being dead set to lynch Flush, not really saying much otherwise. I thought Flush's reads were fine since there was so little to go on to scumhunt at the time, though I feel like he should be the one replying to the rest. Also I don't really know you or most of the people here, so I have no idea what your previous play is. And what does RVS mean? Been seeing that term brought up. Personally I'm ready to hack them back up. This was a play on Phrazes word choice. In that they were going to take the time to digest or think about Flush's play. I on the other hand had already made an opinion from the handful of posts already seen.Though, this doesn't really explain why it is weird. Are you trying to say a tonal shift made it seem off? RVS (Random Voting Stage) or the random voting done at the start of each mafia game by the majority. Personally I'm not a fan of such. |
Nov 9, 2018 9:38 AM
#237
tone gets to u easily iirc. tho u have been 50/50 accurate so far, so fair enough. also, when I mentioned how scum!Astros would play.. I said he would be more head-in-the-clouds. backreaders find fault in general, if scum, but I didn't limit that to Astros. (just remembered) |
Nov 9, 2018 9:40 AM
#238
Astros said: But it was my post you linked? And it was an irrelevant one to what you were proposing.RE said: It's where I got to wording something out of nothing. Okay, but my post wasn't directed at you specifically. You're not the only one suspecting activity.I don't know why you linked this post? The only post where I discuss activity as cause for suspicion is when I say I would have expected Kit, starpendle, and maybe ironace to have posted more by now. RE said: How am I defensive in excess? Are you comparing this to meta or personal opinion? I'll admit I'm being more aggressive, but that's as I think the current suspects are for poor reasons.You seem overly defensive. RE said: I'm aware. However it didn't seem that was your only reason with how long you waited to vote from your initial post of suspicion. To me it seems you were reassured by the mutual suspicion of FTF and Jormandur. Who primarily seem to suspect my activity at the moment.You should note that my vote on you has nothing to do with activity but the content of the first post you made. I made this clear when I voted you. My reply to Jor was impulsive, I had been considering all those players as suspects in my mind and was excited that someone else shared the idea. You and yurkin are correct though in that reasoning for his reads doesn't seem quite right (contradictory). RE said: Being from MU can easily be used as an excuse.I'm not saying it is, but the possibility is there. Personally, it's not a heavy indicator of alignment, but I just simply dislike how it muddles up the game thread more than necessary. Making back reading and getting a sense for current debates all the more challenging. It's detrimental overall.About this - I think it's fair commentary and he should explain why it's weird because I don't think it's uncommon for this to happen on MU either. However on MU (the site FTF plays on) it's not unusual to post in such frequency. I'd find catch up posts that reply consecutively more scummy. |
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Nov 9, 2018 9:42 AM
#239
Phraze said: Phraze... Please don't misunderstand me. I have no intention of basing any read purely off of tone unless I have found it is an accurate tell for that player (Abu, yurkin, LanMisa). However I had a discussion with Tainted earlier on how he reads off tone (pure or not). Therefore I am asking him for his opinion.tone gets to u easily iirc. tho u have been 50/50 accurate so far, so fair enough. also, when I mentioned how scum!Astros would play.. I said he would be more head-in-the-clouds. backreaders find fault in general, if scum, but I didn't limit that to Astros. (just remembered) |
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Nov 9, 2018 9:45 AM
#240
Phraze said: Depending on how discussion with him goes (if I change my mind), I think it may be a reliable tell for him in particular. Normally I attribute objective commentary to scum but he does that as town frequently. So if that objective commentary turns into something resembling shade, then I will note it. I found his first post on FTF of that nature.also, when I mentioned how scum!Astros would play.. I said he would be more head-in-the-clouds. backreaders find fault in general, if scum, but I didn't limit that to Astros. (just remembered) |
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Nov 9, 2018 9:49 AM
#241
RE said: Your post is #110 I linked #109 above it.But it was my post you linked? And it was an irrelevant one to what you were proposing. RE said: Half correct. That was the only mafia game of late or possibly ever where I played while having to work. It's the only game one can compare activity. Which is the leading reason for suspecting me. So while it was aimed at you, it's not exclusively.You defended your activity levels by bringing up your play in Bob's Burgers when that reasoning could only apply to me, and yet I said nothing about your activity. RE said: Where did I say I wanted to lynch them? I merely said I disliked their playstyle and I believe their reasoning is poor. To the point that it's making something out of nothing. Activity, which is NAI. Which is why I found your first post scummy. You expressed intent to lynch over reasoning that is NAI. Though I think at the time I didn't realize what you meant by "something out of nothing." |
Nov 9, 2018 9:58 AM
#242
Astros said: OMG! You're right. I have no idea what happened there. My bad.RE said: Your post is #110 I linked #109 above it.But it was my post you linked? And it was an irrelevant one to what you were proposing. RE said: Half correct. That was the only mafia game of late or possibly ever where I played while having to work. It's the only game one can compare activity. Which is the leading reason for suspecting me. So while it was aimed at you, it's not exclusively.You defended your activity levels by bringing up your play in Bob's Burgers when that reasoning could only apply to me, and yet I said nothing about your activity. RE said: Where did I say I wanted to lynch them? I merely said I disliked their playstyle and I believe their reasoning is poor. To the point that it's making something out of nothing. Activity, which is NAI. Which is why I found your first post scummy. You expressed intent to lynch over reasoning that is NAI. Though I think at the time I didn't realize what you meant by "something out of nothing." Astros said: Phraze said: Personally I'm ready to hack them back up. Making [i]something[i] out of nothing and with a spam posting habit to boot. The latter is more detrimental than the former to town's play and yet they present both. Flusher will take some time for me to digest |
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Nov 9, 2018 10:11 AM
#243
Astros said: Missed this, my bad.This was a play on Phrazes word choice. In that they were going to take the time to digest or think about Flush's play. I on the other hand had already made an opinion from the handful of posts already seen. vote: AbuHumaid choo choo |
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Nov 9, 2018 10:13 AM
#244
RE said: It probably was how it centered the page on your post instead of Flush's. That and due to them lacking an avatar it's very small post. OMG! You're right. I have no idea what happened there. My bad. RE said: Originally, it wasn't. Not until you mentioned me and star alongside Abu did the read shift. That is the read that activity was linked to Mafia.The way I saw it, it wasn't a type of read directed at you particularly (others were guilty of it as well). So you wanted me to pay mind to a game that proved your activity levels were NAI when that was not the reason I found you scummy? Don't agree with the logic there, but probably not significant. No. If you notice I mentioned Bob's Burgers before I addressed you or any of those from that game. It was to show an example of where I played similarly, yet was not mafia. Also it provided a source of meta for the new players. (Felt it'd be helpful with all the meta being thrown up. Too lazy to link it though.) I'm aware that you voted for different reasons, you even discounted the lack of RVS as NAI. However, I wanted to address both reasons for suspicion and didn't consider you very confident in your stated reasons for voting. (Was also tilted.) RE said: Yeah, I assumed that might be the case from Star's reaction so I clarified it here. #236I took the wording here to mean you wanted to lynch/kill them: Edit: Removed ] after #236 |
Nov 9, 2018 10:15 AM
#245
@RE ehh ok ------- this might be one of those against-the-flow posts from me: possible town RE - haven't seen her scumgame yet, but emotional player? shouldn't be that hard. Abu - bold entrance and consistent posts later. he understands me from prev game aka not opportunistic in my book. Astros - he's sorting ppl fmpov Bajar - very independent unlike prev game Yurkin - I tend to townread them, so yeah. suspicious so far FTF - part based on association with a town!Abu, part based on my observation that his posts stirs without objective. we have a resident fluff-poster in Shinichi-kun, so that isn't tooo new to me. his post when coming back looked coast'ish tho Jormandur - readlist looks elementary. why does no-opinion mean not-in-lynch-option? the way he rvs'd me looked rolefishy, and even tho passed off as a joke, said I seemed to be hiding something? hope I'm not remembering readlist wrongly cuz mobile typing Ironace - gonna need to reread him. the fact his only major post here was to suspect Abu is.. suspicious to me. those not listed are up in the air for me. list isn't definite, just observations (before ppl misunderstand suspect for scumread again) |
Nov 9, 2018 10:16 AM
#246
Nov 9, 2018 10:21 AM
#247
Nov 9, 2018 10:21 AM
#248
Astros said: In that case, it may be an indicator of you being town. Weak, but I think scum would be a bit more reluctant to offer past meta.No. If you notice I mentioned Bob's Burgers before I addressed you or any of those from that game. It was to show an example of where I played similarly, yet was not mafia. Also it provided a source of meta for the new players. (Felt it'd be helpful with all the meta being thrown up. Too lazy to link it though.) |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 9, 2018 10:24 AM
#249
Phraze said: He complained about nobody being around yet his own contributions weren't great. I asked for reads and he focused solely on the scum (scum don't need to find town, they need to find town they can push as scum). The main factor is him thinking my scum game improved. I disagree, and of all people, he should as well.@RE can u explain why Abu is suspicious to u? I think his hesitation here could be due to the prev game, and before, wherein his bulldozing wasn't helpful to town. I also feel boldness isn't AI for him. He has claimed scum as scum more than once. (My confidence is around ~37%) |
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