slick97

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I'm seeing that the marketing reach formula has been nerfed. Is this a bug or it's working as intented? Because now looks like only the skill matters and the stats are nearly useless(for main player and every worker). The ingame formula that is depicted: 3xcarisma + 2xmarketing skill + 1xfocus and then the result is multiplied by 5 to get the market reach. Now looks like only the 2x marketing skill is x5.
Really not sure if this is balanced, because now u need an insane number of workers to keep up the value(in fact nearly 5 times more workers than before).
And if it's a bug, is there some way to patch it?.
Are you seeing the discrepancy in the formula through an in-game tooltip (i.e. during the tutorial)? The code that handles your change in market reach is still 3*Cha + Focus + 2*Skill, but instead of times 5 it's multiplied by company efficiency ranging from 0.5 to 2.
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Xaoyu

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Well, it's not Kaden's mod, then. (It has both the night pyjamas and the beach, if I remember correctly.) Sorry, can't help then.
i found how to resolve the issue with badly design random outfit. You need to access the outfit manager tab (very top left of the screen) and select Nigh Time Wardrobe in the list. There you can delete or modify those weird overwear and it will should affect every npc who are in their house during night time (it does work on npc family : his sister and mother)
 

Xaoyu

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If you mean the times when she takes you into the office and forces you to get her off, you just need to get her obedience up.
well that's one annoying force event, but i was talking about an other one, sort of weird forced ntr shit where she ask you to help reconcile with Lily (npc sister)
 

Grumlydude

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I'm seeing that the marketing reach formula has been nerfed. Is this a bug or it's working as intented? Because now looks like only the skill matters and the stats are nearly useless(for main player and every worker). The ingame formula that is depicted: 3xcarisma + 2xmarketing skill + 1xfocus and then the result is multiplied by 5 to get the market reach. Now looks like only the 2x marketing skill is x5.
Really not sure if this is balanced, because now u need an insane number of workers to keep up the value(in fact nearly 5 times more workers than before).
And if it's a bug, is there some way to patch it?.
Yes this is a bug in current "stable" version (2024.08).
But the formula has changed and the tooltip is adjusted in "develop" version
 

Xaoyu

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What's the use of "Stamina" ? Is that Mc ability to resist the urge to release during the act or is it simply related to his "Energie" and just reduce the cost of every actions ?

An other question : is it possible to change the idle pose of an npc ?
 

rb813

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What's the use of "Stamina" ? Is that Mc ability to resist the urge to release during the act or is it simply related to his "Energie" and just reduce the cost of every actions ?
I believe the stat which affects how well he's able to resist the urge to cum is Focus.
 
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verizon_vader

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Does anyone know about the following?
  • Once a girl moves into the harem mansion? Can we ask them to go back to the house? Currently Lily has moved in, and this is blocking the story progression with Erica where they take pics for OF on Sat eve, as Lily's room is no longer present.
  • Can we ask Erica to be off birth control? I could not see any such prompt.
  • How far can we go with Ashley? Story progress is complete but I can only go far till oral.
 

eatfortwo

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  • Once a girl moves into the harem mansion? Can we ask them to go back to the house? Currently Lily has moved in, and this is blocking the story progression with Erica where they take pics for OF on Sat eve, as Lily's room is no longer present.
  • Can we ask Erica to be off birth control? I could not see any such prompt.
  • How far can we go with Ashley? Story progress is complete but I can only go far till oral.
1 - No.
2 - No. She gets knocked up as part of story progression.
3 - I've been able to go all the way with her on previous runs, but no idea what you're missing or whether anything has been changed.
 
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Ralflaure

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Are you seeing the discrepancy in the formula through an in-game tooltip (i.e. during the tutorial)? The code that handles your change in market reach is still 3*Cha + Focus + 2*Skill, but instead of times 5 it's multiplied by company efficiency ranging from 0.5 to 2.
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Yep, it's in the tooltip that appears when u put the pointer of the mouse over "find new clients >>"
Nevertheless, that doesn't work for my character or any of my workers. Actually I'm at 8Char/2Focus and 3 for marketing skill. My company effiency is 111%. And still I'm getting 62 market reach:
Considering that formula would be (8x3=24) + (2x1=2) + (3 x 2=6) =32+20 =52 x 1.11= 57.72.
Instead if u do the same but with what I said... (8x3=24) + (2x1=2) + (3 x 2=6 x 5= 30) = 56 *1.11 = 62.16. So maybe that x5 is hidden behind the "skill" somehow and just the tooltip is poorly written. I can confirm the same numbers for all of my marketing staff and for the market reach they make every "turn" as for the numbers that appear in their profiles.

What's the file for the formulas? so I can verify mine?.

I'm playing v2024.08 btw.
 

verizon_vader

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1 - No.
2 - No. She gets knocked up as part of story progression.
3 - I've been able to go all the way with her on previous runs, but no idea what you're missing or whether anything has been changed.
Thanks!
1 - If we break up with them, will they move back?
3 - To me it says complete the bend over desk event
 

Xaoyu

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I noticed that very rarely, Npc sex skill level increase by themselves during the act. I don't think there is any information about that ingame and i don't see any guide in this site.

Can someone explain how does that works exactly and if there is other features like that ? For exemple can npc change opinion on normal and sexual things without being manipulated by the Trance mechanic ?
 

Thunderbolt

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How can it be that Stephanie can be pregnant by birth control and also Pregnancy disabled? Can i abord that?


Ahh i see for study for Nora.... but is there still any option to abord it?
 
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slick97

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Yep, it's in the tooltip that appears when u put the pointer of the mouse over "find new clients >>"
Nevertheless, that doesn't work for my character or any of my workers. Actually I'm at 8Char/2Focus and 3 for marketing skill. My company effiency is 111%. And still I'm getting 62 market reach:
Considering that formula would be (8x3=24) + (2x1=2) + (3 x 2=6) =32+20 =52 x 1.11= 57.72.
Instead if u do the same but with what I said... (8x3=24) + (2x1=2) + (3 x 2=6 x 5= 30) = 56 *1.11 = 62.16. So maybe that x5 is hidden behind the "skill" somehow and just the tooltip is poorly written. I can confirm the same numbers for all of my marketing staff and for the market reach they make every "turn" as for the numbers that appear in their profiles.

What's the file for the formulas? so I can verify mine?.

I'm playing v2024.08 btw.
That's where the discrepancy is then. It seems Tristim changed how the market reach is calculated on August 26th, but I also remember that at one point it did use to take focus into account since that was the trend for every department.

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*Edit: This formula still uses focus, so I'm striking out misleading info
 
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Ralflaure

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That's where the discrepancy is then. It seems Tristim changed how the market reach is calculated on August 26th, but I also remember that at one point it did use to take focus into account since that was the trend for every department.

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*Edit: This forumla still uses focus, so I'm striking out misleading info
So we have to wait for the next update for the tooltip to match?. It seems now the marketing department will be pretty full. :D
 

Ralflaure

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Salsa dancing is on Wednesday. Use the "check your phone" option,then select story progress, click Camilla's icon, it will show you what is needed for progress.
Still missing on how to improve salsa over 18... with energy at 300 and charisma at 8 (all max stats anyway) I see no other way to improve (unless theres someway around to increase both stats over or a hidden mechanic). Can it be so it is "unfinished"?.
 
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